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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:40:00 -
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Aside from the already stated drawbacks, what's to stop someone from making the fast jumps on one pilot (if they know in advance where they are going) then simply handing the ship off to a "fresh" pilot to continue the remainder of the trip without having to stop much more that the time it takes to get out of, and get into the ship?
So ISTM that aside from a little inconvenience to a few folks, nothing will change other than the second account with the pilot on it and a ship that the "fatigued" pilot can fly... Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:45:00 -
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Zhul Chembull wrote:As an industrialist this destroys the game completely. Remember when mining wasn't even worth it, I promise you those days are coming back.
Sooner than most folks think when you look at the recent SP and ISK sink that industry has been turned into... this is without even bothering with the upcoming nerfs to invention.
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:47:00 -
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Lost touch wrote:Just wanna say this...
Who the **** pays for EvE with RL money?!?!
I do TBH....
just saying Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:56:00 -
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Slap Chop wrote:Lost touch wrote:Who the **** pays for EvE with RL money?!?!
I do, for nearly 6 years now having only taken a 3 month break at the end of 2010. I used to spend a shitload of cash on GTC's also to fund my PVP adventures. I stopped that after Y-2 and the canned response the GM's were giving out about the blackout. Less than a year old and blew over a grand up to that point, glad the GM knocked a little sense into me. My time is more valuable than what the game pays, i'd rather just spend some cash and buy PLEX so that the few hours I have per week is spent playing a game that I enjoy.
I am in a similar situation, I used to fund 11 accounts total including my Son's 2 accounts and while I have cut down on the number of them, I play to have fun, not to have a second job, so I too pay with RL money mostly
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:48:00 -
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umnikar wrote:I do NOT believe all the plexes on the market are payed by rl money.
With the few exceptions where CCP has gifted a plex to an event or whatever, each and every plex in the game is paid for with RL money
now you know. :)
o/ Celly Smunt Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.03 03:38:00 -
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TBH, CCP should really fix POSes before going out into new territory... after all, it has only been needed for what?, 10 years or so now? Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:10:00 -
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i love how all capitals are now being put into a higher risk situation because of these changes yet the ability to BO hot drop someone is remaining virtually unchanged... LOL
its almost as though someone wants to see more stuff get blown up or something...
idk, maybe its just me... o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.08 00:41:00 -
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Jacque Custeau wrote:This is a another huge nerf to super-carriers and titans. For better or worse, these ships have only a fraction of the ability they once had when they were released.
Is it possible for CCP to re-visit the issue of supers and titans being able to dock? Do you really think that with all the previous changes in addition to what is being planned, it still makes sense to keep these ships out of stations?
if you allow them to dock, then you just removed the reason to change cynos last time...
it won't happen as far as I can tell, but, it would be a step forward in some cases.
o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:30:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:
I am still listening.
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this is why some of us voted for you, because we felt that you would give an accurate representation on our behalf, based on your posts, we have not made a mistake.
"Do you accept the premise that null is basically stagnant/broken?"
When a group will drop a titan, supers, regular caps and subcaps on a worm and an enyo because they are bored to tears with their game-play, I would have to say yes.
"Do you believe that power projection is partially at fault?"
yes, in as much as skipping an LOL blob fleet across the galaxy in 5 minutes is.
"Is it the right step?"
partially, if you are wanting to stir up the status quo and break up (to an extent) the big power blocs.
"What would you think is the next one?"
SOV changes, followed by a more balanced resource allocation.
"IF they are going to go through with this math and this solution what minor changes would you suggest?"
honestly?, leave JFs and rorqual's ranges alone, period.. And Keep the 90% reduction bonus of the ship against fatigue and cooldown, both of those are integral parts of industry for their most basic uses and nerfing them (while having the benefit of localizing the economy) will cripple many small groups and hinder the big guys as well without a balanced redistribution of ALL types of resources.
No one wants to risk 6 to 8 billion isks worth of ship just to get a billion or so worth of items they might need to have to survive in deep space, without a balanced/even redistribution of all resources, they will simply hug the edges of low sec, or even live in high sec and more of null sec will remain desolate and empty.
I know both the JF and rorqual can be used outside of their basic purposes, but that's not something that happens much anyway as far as I know and I doubt that with the SMB restrictions on the Rorqual anyone will be making it a trojan horse for SBs, besides, BLOPs are being left alone for the most part, so if you're really wanting to be able to keep the hotdrop alive and well, then you need to keep the ability to prepare, defend or recover from one with industry alive and well too... leave the JF and rorqual range alone...
just my 0.02 cents worth as a person who has spent years living in both high and of late null sec.
o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 02:35:00 -
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and I finally saw the stealth "remove local" post.... :(
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 02:37:00 -
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Frango Mint wrote: With the limited range of JF, living in null for industry will be nearly impossible. No way will I fly a multi billion isk ship through a gate just hoping that there won't be a gank party waiting for me, all because of this patch.
Which is exactly what I and others have said repeatedly in this thread...
GOOD CALL o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 02:41:00 -
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Nazri al Mahdi wrote: I wouldn't use a JF for it either. A Rorqual might work though. Pack a couple webs, a scram, and a neut on there and you could put up a decent fight against a small gang. Especially if you have good drone skills. _ I really don't want to do this though - I'd take more mids over yoloing a whale-shaped loot pi+Ķata through a regional gate.
Still you have a multi billion isk ship at higher risk and with no support unless you manage to fill it full if battle skiffs, and even then, it's pissing away good isks on a poor plan when other capitals are cheaper and have more DPS and more tanking ability.
o/ Celly Smunt Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:09:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Celly S wrote:and I finally saw the stealth "remove local" post.... :(
Where?
in a post of one of the folks I voted for, a redheaded lady similar to yourself.
o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:22:00 -
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Rowells wrote: You can still use the JF. It wont be easy as before nor as safe. but still completely possible.
Someone will say that it will be impossible for small groups to live in deep null. It will be extremely difficult to keep up the exact same style of play but there are always options. The most lucrative one being to move to somewhere better suited for your operations.
If you keep trying to do things the same way as you did before the patch you will be giving yourself a disadvantage.
"You can still use the JF. It wont be easy as before nor as safe. but still completely possible. "
This is true, however, the costs of a JF currently makes that type of risk unacceptable in most cases unless someone has iskies to simply throw away for S&Gs
"Someone will say that it will be impossible for small groups to live in deep null."
already been said repeatedly in this thread
"It will be extremely difficult to keep up the exact same style of play but there are always options. The most lucrative one being to move to somewhere better suited for your operations."
There is a very valid argument to be made that much of null is empty, that there should be more things to bring people to that type space as opposed to having some 70% of players living in high sec space (i forget the exact figure at this time) because it is already hard to survive out there as it is, and will be even more-so after this change is put into effect.
just saying o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.09 17:55:00 -
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Yuri Thorpe wrote:If you guys dont mind me asking, what are the advantages of using a rorqual over a jf for hauling?
unless you're only hauling ORE/ICE/Industrial ships?
none
o/ Celly Smunt
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Celly S
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Posted - 2014.10.10 01:01:00 -
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Please go here now: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=378426&find=unread
that's where the discussion and the proposed changes have been placed.
:)
o/ Celly Smunt Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
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